by
Jon Twitch
The four most defining moments
of my life:
1. Getting the hell out of my
mom¡¯s womb
2. Getting the crap out of
school
3. Getting the living christ out of
the western hemisphere
4. Getting this letter from Dave
Hillyard, sax player of the
Slackers:
Hi Jon,
the slackers are coming to
japan in march. I was wondering
if you knew of any way we could
visit korea at the same time?
was just reading your article
on the korean ska scene and
thought, why the fuck not?
Dave Hillyard
That was back in October.
Since then I¡¯ve been organising
the Slackers tour to Korea.
Recently I had a chance to talk
with Hillyard on the phone. It¡¯s
pretty rare that a band considers
coming to Korea, let alone
one of my favourite bands. So
I was curious where he got the
idea.
¡°I kept on meeting people
from different Asian countries
that would come to our gigs in
the States,¡± Hillyard explains.
¡°There was this woman from
Korea actually who came to
one of my Rocksteady 7 gigs at
this little jazz club, and I was
like hmm...so somebody from
Korea likes the Slackers and
likes [the Dave Hillyard] Rocksteady
7. And I started looking
around the web and I was like
¡®Hmm, there¡¯s actually a bunch
of stuff going on. I wonder how
tough it would be to get over
there.¡¯¡±
On the Slackers website,
Courtney, an English teacher
from the US encouraged them
to come to Korea. ¡°is there any
chance of you making it any
farhter out into the pacific, like
to, say, south korea? there¡¯s
a HUGE ska scene here, but
it¡¯d be awesome to show them
some NYC rocksteady!¡±
Huge ska scene, huh? Well,
we had a lot of work to do.
Like most bands that tour to
Korea, the Slackers are playing
several shows in Japan first.
¡°It¡¯s pretty well known Japan
has a big ska scene,¡± says Hillyard.
¡°It has for a long time. Japan
since World War II has been
so open to western music, they
have a big scene for all kinds of
stuff. They¡¯re really into music.
When they really like something
they seek it out. They take musicianship
very seriously.¡±
Early in the Slackers¡¯ career,
they spent a couple days
in Japan in 1993 or 1994, before
Hillyard joined. ¡°Then the band
didn¡¯t come back until 2004 I
think it was,¡± Hillyard says. ¡°So
when we come back again it¡¯ll
be the third time.¡±
This is only Hillyard¡¯s second
tour to Asia. ¡°I definitely
felt like I was far away from
home being out there, and the
cultural differences were really
intense,¡± Hillyard reminisces.
¡°It was fun. I mean the crowds
were great and the shows were
great, but it was definitely intense.¡±
The Slackers already had
a large fanbase in Japan. They
played three shows in Tokyo,
and their first show had 300
people. ¡°It was pretty amazing,¡±
says Hillyard. ¡°A lot of people
knew some of the basic words
and they knew all the songs.¡±
They toured around Japan
to Nagoya, Osaka, and several
other smaller stops.
¡°I was impressed with
the Japanese bands,¡± says
Hillyard.¡± They were really
good, also I thought they
grooved pretty well too. When
you go to Europe you¡¯ll come
across bands that have precision,
but they don¡¯t have that
rhythmic oomph, that groove
thing, whereas I thought some
of the Japanese bands were also
pretty groovy.¡±
In Nagoya they ran into Tokyo
Ska Paradise Orchestra,
who they¡¯d previously seen in
Europe. ¡°Me and Glen Pine the
trombone player, we went and
sat in with them, and then they
came down and sat in with us at
our show.¡±
They travelled everywhere
with two people: a tour manager
and a driver/roadie.
"They made sure we didn¡¯t
get lost, which is a real issue
actually,¡± Hillyard says. ¡°Some
of those cities there¡¯s so much
going on like Osaka--America
town. There was all these
lights fiashing, all this stuff going
on, big TVs, I didn¡¯t even
know what to do. It¡¯s so much
more massive than 42nd Street,
I felt like a hick. Plus I couldn¡¯t
talk to anybody. You can¡¯t read
any of the street signs. It occurred
to me, what do I do if I
get lost?¡±
The Slackers have toured
many different countries, but
Japan caused a bit of extra
culture shock. ¡°We¡¯ve been
all over Europe so it¡¯s not like
we¡¯ve never travelled, been to
Latin American and stuff, we¡¯ve
toured a bunch of countries,¡±
says Hillyard. ¡°I was just so
disoriented. The big problem is
that you could talk to people a
little bit but you don¡¯t necessarily
know what¡¯s going on sometimes.¡±
¡°I can¡¯t really say I understand
Japanese culture at all,¡±
Hillyard admits. ¡°I definitely
don¡¯t have a clue about what
Korean culture is like. I¡¯m assuming
they¡¯re definitely different
in some ways.¡±
On tour in Japan, they were
immersed in Japanese culture
the entire time. Unlike Korea,
where there¡¯s a large foreigner
presence at shows, in Japan
¡°there was a few, definitely not
a lot.¡±
Hillyard¡¯s most surreal experience
came when they discovered
a Chinese restaurant.
¡°We were wandering
around, couldn¡¯t read anything
in restaurants, couldn¡¯t figure
out what the hell was going out
half the time. But then we found
this Chinese restaurant and all
of a sudden everyone¡¯s yelling
and screaming and cursing each
other, you know the people
who work there. And somehow
we knew what to order on the
menu it all made sense. The
funny thing was the chinese
restaurant seemed so familiar.
The Japanese restaurant, I was
like, ¡®Is somebody ordering, are
they just saying hello, or I don¡¯t
know what the hell¡¯s going on,
hey food¡¯s coming, how¡¯d that
happen?¡¯¡±
Hillyard is already a little
familiar with Korean culture.
¡°There¡¯s a lot of Koreans in
New York and a lot of Koreans
in California where I grew
up too, so I¡¯ve actually known
Korean kids my whole life,¡±
Hillyard explains. ¡°I¡¯m not going
to say that I was intimate
with Korean culture, but there¡¯s
always been Korean people
around. I know about the wars
and a little bit about the history
and stuff after the war. I¡¯m into
history myself so I know a little
bit about it. I know about the
Japanese and the Koreans.¡±
His brother came here to
work for an electronics company.
When Hillyard was in Japan,
he picked up a bottle of soju,
¡°that firewater liquor stuff.¡±
If this tour is a success,
Hillyard is interested in visiting
more Asian countries. In the
past he¡¯s had offers from the
Philippines and Singapore. He¡¯s
also interested in touring Taiwan
and mainland China, where
the scene is growing like wild-
fire. Let¡¯s hope this tour opens
up a lot of doors.
¡°The main thing for me is
just not having too many bands
on the bill,¡± Hillyard says, ¡°because
then we don¡¯t get to play
long. One of the sad things I
didn¡¯t like about Japan was we
only got to play for about 45
minutes to an hour a lot of the
time. We usually like to play 90
minutes.¡±